warwickhunt Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I'm new to gigging acoustic guitar live (duo) as I'm a dyed in the wool bass player BUT... I am loving it. However, when putting my Simon & Patrick through the PA and or Ashdown Acoustic Radiator combo I'm finding I'm getting a swell/bloom on the bass end. I've got a notch filter on the amp + I've also tried running it through a BBE acoustic preamp pedal with another notch filter but I'm finding that filtering it just seems to move the resonant frequency up/down a bit. I should add that I've used the desks lo-cut to take out everything below 60hz (could be 80hz I'll need to check). I should add this isn't at mega volumes. Any easy solutions or tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: ...I'm getting a swell/bloom on the bass end... Do you have a sound-hole plug..? That will cut down some of the resonance. A bit more of a faff, but you might try using a mic on the guitar, and have the electro just as 'support' for the mic (so low volume...). Change the orientation of the combo (if it's behind you, put it in front, facing you..?). Sometimes (extreme cases...), a 'lesser' guitar comes across better (it's a funny ol' world...). Hope this helps. Edited May 9, 2022 by Dad3353 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Dad3353 said: Do you have a sound-hole plug..? That will cut down some of the resonance. A bit more of a faff, but you might try using a mic on the guitar, and have the electro just as 'support' for the mic (so low volume...). Change the orientation of the combo (if it's behind you, put it in front, facing you..?). Sometimes (extreme cases...), a 'lesser' guitar comes across better (it's a funny ol' world...). Hope this helps. I'll try and source a bung as a first step. As it happens the combo is only used as a monitor, so is on the floor front and tilted back. I go guitar > BBE preamp = (split) PA/combo (monitor). I'd be getting into a whole other level if I started to mic the acoustic, so that would be a last result. Thanks for the input though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 if you are just using it as a monitor then try getting it as close to your ears as you can (with as low a volume as is possible) I used to use a Marshall AS50 for exactly the same thing and had a similar issue, i swapped to a tiny Trace acoustic cube on a stand high up and it was much better, you would be welcome to try out the Trace if you want as i'm mainly using IEM's for acoustic at the moment and i'm not far from you in Newcastle. Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 Hi Matt. The Ashdown isn't physically large (8" driver) so I may see how close I can move it (and what to stand it on). I'm hosting a buskers tonight to help a friend out, so I'll experiment. I also have a DBX GoRack heading my way, which might prove useful. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/dbx-gorack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 No worries, the offer stands if you ever want to try it, the trace is about as tiny as acoustic amps gets, the whole thing is only 8" cube and is designed to mount on a mic stand (it has a threaded boss built into the base.) Matt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Matt P said: No worries, the offer stands if you ever want to try it, the trace is about as tiny as acoustic amps gets, the whole thing is only 8" cube and is designed to mount on a mic stand (it has a threaded boss built into the base.) Matt Cheers Matt, I'll certainly bear it in mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 +1 on a bung and small drivers onstage :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
