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I recently started experimenting with hardware guitar effects, adding delay chorus pedals etc.I found the FX Amplitube sound very clean even if I added the odd actual hardware tube screamer pedal to FX Amplitube.

 

So here it goes. My guitar is plugged into tuner , distortion pedals, delay etc , noise suppressor then Marshall combo. If I use the gain channel on Marshall with added e.g. tube screamer to boost it and delay and play solo it sounds fuzzy. If I use the same chain process but use the clean Marshall channel the sound during solo is cleaner but rythm not as dirty sounding. 

Is there a reason for this? Does the added tube screamer cause more " harsher" sound when run through gain channel? 

 

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In short, yes. You’re cascading one boost into another (distorting a distorted signal) and also driving the front of the amp harder. In addition, Tube Screamers are very mid centric and whilst often sounding great in front of a clean Fender style amp, adding them to an amp with more mids (typical Marshall type voicing) you’re getting a rather large hump, mid range in your EQ, which adds to that harshness you’re hearing.

 

Rhett Shull recently did a video on TS boxes.

 

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  On 26/11/2021 at 09:04, ezbass said:

In short, yes. You’re cascading one boost into another (distorting a distorted signal) and also driving the front of the amp harder. In addition, Tube Screamers are very mid centric and whilst often sounding great in front of a clean Fender style amp, adding them to an amp with more mids (typical Marshall type voicing) you’re getting a rather large hump, mid range in your EQ, which adds to that harshness you’re hearing.

 

Rhett Shull recently did a video on TS boxes.

 

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Thanks for the advice. Though the video didn't quite answer the question.

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  On 26/11/2021 at 19:23, SH73 said:

Thanks for the advice. Though the video didn't quite answer the question.

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No, not directly, but it gives an insight (albeit highly, negatively biased) into what the TS does. For Marshall type amps, something like a Boss OD1 is probably more appropriate. 

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  On 27/11/2021 at 09:31, ezbass said:

No, not directly, but it gives an insight (albeit highly, negatively biased) into what the TS does. For Marshall type amps, something like a Boss OD1 is probably more appropriate. 

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Very true, my old boss od1 sounds great in solos when it's run through the Marshall gain channel. 

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  On 27/11/2021 at 09:41, SH73 said:

Very true, my old boss od1 sounds great in solos when it's run through the Marshall gain channel. 

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Another Boss pedal worth a look at is the DS1, that’s the one Joe Satriani uses, or at least used, and he’s a Marshall type amp player. Another DS1 user, albeit modded, is Marillion’s Steve Rothery (although that’s probably into a Roland amp), I love his tone, especially on Easter.

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  On 27/11/2021 at 11:10, ezbass said:

Another Boss pedal worth a look at is the DS1, that’s the one Joe Satriani uses, or at least used, and he’s a Marshall type amp player. Another DS1 user, albeit modded, is Marillion’s Steve Rothery (although that’s probably into a Roland amp), I love his tone, especially on Easter.

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I think mine is ds1 distortion not od1

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